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Bunker Bonanza: why the US market for survival shelters is booming and what Trump has to do with it. While my dad and I were eating one-dollar-a-box pasta for dinner in a house with almost no furniture, in school, I was studying American literature. But it was Fight Club that showed me the Dream was a lie in the first place , and the people who shilled for it were all selling something. Not only that: loving Fight Club made me weird.

The only other people who liked it were guys, but the more I talked to them about it, the more it seemed like we were watching two totally different movies. They thought the story was about how men should be able to take out their aggression however and whenever they want. The problem in their logic comes when they want to strip away the consumerist programming Fight Club is so against, and replace it with more programming in the form of old-fashioned gender roles, destructive caricatures of masculinity, and patriarchal privilege.

Instead of consumerist culture, MRA Fight Club fanboys want power, silent women, and—wait for it—the American Dream, just by another name. That kind of ethos is completely against the point of Fight Club , which recognizes that the patriarchy hurts men as well as the rest of us. The patriarchal establishments that make up our country also created the American Dream; they told us what we should want and gave us the often quite rigged rules of how to get it.

Be who you are, whether that looks like traditional masculinity or not. If this story was happening today, Project Mayhem would be rounding up incels and turning them into anti-capitalist freedom fighters, men who try to destroy the patriarchy instead of bending to its will and lining its pockets. In the Chuck Palahniuk novel, "Fight Club," and movie based on the book, two men inadvertently establish an underground network of clubs where men beat the tar out of one another.

There's no good reason behind the fights other than fighting is reason in itself. Through these fights, the characters attempt to regain control of what they see as their increasingly emasculated lives. Rather than order furniture from catalogs or contemplate duvets, they choose to drop out of society and reinstitute their manhood through violence. This radical mentality attracts a multitude of other characters in the story that join the underground fight clubs which quickly spring up around the country.

There's something visceral and exceedingly base that's derived from the sensation of knuckle impacting orbital socket. At least, that's what the main characters in the story decide. Fighting runs in stark contradiction to the norms of civilized society. Two people consentingly engaging in violence against one another is a different story, however. This, too, undermines society, but in a different way. The story is, of course, entirely fictitious: Palahniuk says that he made the idea of fight clubs up [source: DVD Talk ].

But following the release of the book -- and even more after the movie's release -- the author stood accused of inadvertently creating a real-life fight club trend. So are there real-life fight clubs? Before we get to that, find out about violence through the ages on the next page.

Fighting is nothing new among humans. We've pummeled one another for millennia. Ancient texts like the Babylonian epic poem "Gilgamesh" and the Bible describe early acts of physical brutality. Archaeologists have found physical evidence of even earlier violence. The famed Iceman of the Alps, whose mummy was found in , is believed to have been ritually murdered in an act of human sacrifice 5, years ago [source: Gugliotta ]. Physical aggression has clearly been around for a while. The question is: Are we like this naturally, or is violence a behavior we've adopted?

Psychologists have debated endlessly over the nature of violence. Some theorize it's innate in all humans, suddenly and irresistibly brought to the fore by some external stimulus or medical condition. Others believe that violence is a learned trait.

This school of thought is supported by anthropological notions that humans lived peacefully in small groups before civilization developed. They theorize that violence emerged out of humans living closely together and the hierarchy that developed out of agriculture and the domestication of animals [source: Bacciagaluppi ].

There are no formal weight limits. Some of the fights are competitive. Others are brutal one-sided beatdowns. Fighters are allowed to take far more punishment than would be the case in a sanctioned amateur bout. Generally, those in attendance feel as though they've gotten their money's worth. If a fighter is seriously hurt and has to be taken to the hospital, doctors are told that he was assaulted on the street. Teddy Atlas worked with D'Amato at the time and was responsible for bringing Cus's young fighters from Catskill to the Bronx for fights between and Right now, there are a lot of opportunities for amateurs to fight and the amateur shows are pretty well run.

Kids can put what they're learning in the gym into practice to become better fighters. Back then, there weren't enough sanctioned amateur shows, and a lot of the shows they had were badly run.

There just weren't enough opportunities to develop young fighters, and the smokers filled that void. We weren't doing it to make money. We were doing it to help make kids better fighters. But for the most part, the smokers were well run. A lot of them were run better than what you had then as authorized amateur fights. The amateurs were pretty bad then. You'd have a kid come in with a passport that said he'd had four or five amateur fights, and the truth was that he'd had twenty or thirty.

The officiating was poor. And like I said; there weren't enough opportunities to fight. The coaches who brought kids to the smokers took their responsibilities seriously. The match-ups were fair. We knew when to stop a fight. We were looking out for the best interests of the young men we were working with, not playing to the blood lust of the crowd. What you're talking about happening underground today takes boxing - if you want to call it boxing - to a different place from what I just described.

Joe Higgins has been involved with amateur and professional boxing for decades. While several of his fighters have risen in the professional ranks, his most notable contributions have been at the amateur level.

He was president of USA Boxing Metro New York from through and has taught countless young men how to box and also the life lessons that come with the learning process. So believe me; I know how dangerous boxing is when it's done right. And anything that's not properly sanctioned and regulated is more dangerous. I understand the concept of taking a guy off the street and giving him the satisfaction of boxing. But you have to do it the right way. These underground show aren't legit. I tried for a long time to get guys who were fighting in them to become legit.



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